{"id":561,"date":"2020-06-26T14:31:18","date_gmt":"2020-06-26T14:31:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/galesaur.com\/tfww\/?p=561"},"modified":"2022-05-25T13:17:34","modified_gmt":"2022-05-25T13:17:34","slug":"gonna-catch-em-all","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/galesaur.com\/tfww\/gonna-catch-em-all\/","title":{"rendered":"Gonna Catch &#8216;Em All"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"has-background wp-block-paragraph\" style=\"background-color:#ffecfa\">A healthy Friday to you, gorgeous fans! This is a brief Author&#8217;s Note, an A\/N if you will, to acknowledge the enormity of the month that has just passed. We hope you are well. If you have the means, please consider sending some support to an organization which advances BIPOC and Trans causes. Perhaps one of <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.vice.com\/en_us\/article\/n7wnbb\/tony-mcdade-nina-pop-how-to-help\">these?<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And this is a sentence that will adequately prepare you for the tonal shift below, as we return again to the Fanart Zone.<br><br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"605\" height=\"450\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/galesaur.com\/tfww\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/DP_Sketch.png?resize=605%2C450&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-562\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/galesaur.com\/tfww\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/DP_Sketch.png?w=605&amp;ssl=1 605w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/galesaur.com\/tfww\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/DP_Sketch.png?resize=300%2C223&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 605px) 100vw, 605px\" \/><figcaption><br><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-drop-cap wp-block-paragraph\">Today&#8217;s guest is the powerful <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.gre-art.com\/\">Gaby Epstein<\/a><\/strong>! Gaby&#8217;s a fantastic cartoonist with a ton of stunning work under their belt, including the (<em>highly <\/em>recommended) <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gre-art.com\/breaking-the-ice\"><strong>Breaking the Ice<\/strong><\/a> comics. (Seriously, take a quick break to read those and then come right back. We&#8217;ll wait.) <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I cannot compliment Gaby&#8217;s work highly enough, but I <em>sure can try, <\/em>so let&#8217;s get into it!<br><br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Good morning, Gaby! Today, we appear to be seated at a hockey rink during a low-key practice situation. I\u2019ve got fruit snacks if you want \u2018em.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Morning Gale!!! Hell yeah. I\u2019ll trade you some Wawa donuts I smuggled in. We\u2019ll feast like kings. Also, feel free to use this complimentary Gritty blanket so your butt doesn\u2019t freeze to the seats\u2026 it\u2019s more likely than you think.<br><br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>WAWA!! You\u2019re too good to me!!!&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Okay, SO. This is a delightful relic, and, if I can be real for a moment, I admire that you filled the page. When I was A Youth, I might have had a habit of\u2026 you know\u2026 messing up one face and calling it a day. <\/strong><strong><em>Anyway, <\/em><\/strong><strong>please tell me everything about this. How old were you? What was on your mind?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Omg, you\u2019re so valid. I feel like that was half my sketchbooks, too (also the first, like, 5 sketch layers of every PSD now lol.)&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This is a page out of one of many sketchbooks I filled with <em>Danny Phantom<\/em> in middle school. It\u2019s from 7th grade, so I was about 13 when I drew this angsty bouquet of Dannys. For this page in particular, I was trying to redesign him. Give him some cool cyberpunk duds and I guess a baseball career, too. I just loved any AU that gave me an excuse to draw him in a cool pose. I was obsessed with the <em>Teen Titans, Go!<\/em> floppies at the time, which featured artists like Todd Nauck and Sean Galloway, so this is definitely me trying to imitate their flow-y styles. Except that intensely muscular Danny in the middle. That is\u2026 purely Jim Lee\u2019s fault. God. You read <em>Hush<\/em> ONE TIME\u2026.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Plus, as I mentioned before: I had a tendency to turn the paper clock-wise as I drew to ensure that the Danny\u2019s weren\u2019t aligned. This was due to a tragic IncidentTM where I drew all my Dannys facing the same direction and a friend said they looked like they were sniffing each other\u2019s butts, which is distinctly NOT emo. So. We have this (and a lingering fear of accidental butt sniffing\u2026. to quote Linkin Park, \u201cthese wounds, they will not heal.\u201d)<br><br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Was this fairly representative of what I might find in your sketchbook around that time? Did you draw a lot? What did drawing mean to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">To a degree, yeah! But honestly there were even more egregious fan arts\u2014 I drew a lot of <em>Danny Phantom\/Crash Bandicoot <\/em>crossovers where they team up to fight a big bad. Lots of Bart Simpson fan comics and angsty comics where Danny meets Hades\/Osiris\/other mythological beings. I\u2019m so bummed I don\u2019t have those drawings anymore because, regardless of the crossover, everyone was skateboarding. Just. All the time. I\u2019m honestly surprised none of these Dannys have chunky Vans on.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And absolutely, I drew all the time! I always wanted to tell stories but was too impatient to write them out so I\u2019d draw the juiciest scenes throughout dozens of notebooks. It was definitely a means of exploration and escape, but I think also a way to explore emotions I didn\u2019t have the ability to verbalize at the time. I joke about angst and whatnot, but there\u2019s a lot you aren\u2019t taught how to process as a kid, and often it\u2019s easier to externalize things like anger, jealousy, etc. into characters who can actualize those feelings\u2014 give and take a punch! Or maybe do a sick fakie bigspin on a rocket board with death, or whatever.<br><br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-jetpack-slideshow aligncenter\" data-effect=\"slide\"><div class=\"wp-block-jetpack-slideshow_container swiper-container\"><ul class=\"wp-block-jetpack-slideshow_swiper-wrapper swiper-wrapper\"><li class=\"wp-block-jetpack-slideshow_slide swiper-slide\"><figure><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"476\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-block-jetpack-slideshow_image wp-image-564\" data-id=\"564\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/galesaur.com\/tfww\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/tumblr_inline_o3wdwcfRfQ1sp290r_640.png?resize=640%2C476&#038;ssl=1\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/galesaur.com\/tfww\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/tumblr_inline_o3wdwcfRfQ1sp290r_640.png?w=640&amp;ssl=1 640w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/galesaur.com\/tfww\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/tumblr_inline_o3wdwcfRfQ1sp290r_640.png?resize=300%2C223&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-block-jetpack-slideshow_caption gallery-caption\">Danny Phantom fanart from 2016!<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/li><li class=\"wp-block-jetpack-slideshow_slide swiper-slide\"><figure><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"800\" height=\"838\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-block-jetpack-slideshow_image wp-image-565\" data-id=\"565\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/galesaur.com\/tfww\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/tumblr_omqludPgb61sl64oxo1_1280.jpg?resize=800%2C838&#038;ssl=1\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/galesaur.com\/tfww\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/tumblr_omqludPgb61sl64oxo1_1280.jpg?w=800&amp;ssl=1 800w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/galesaur.com\/tfww\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/tumblr_omqludPgb61sl64oxo1_1280.jpg?resize=286%2C300&amp;ssl=1 286w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/galesaur.com\/tfww\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/tumblr_omqludPgb61sl64oxo1_1280.jpg?resize=768%2C804&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-block-jetpack-slideshow_caption gallery-caption\">Danny Phantom fanart from 2016!<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/li><\/ul><a class=\"wp-block-jetpack-slideshow_button-prev swiper-button-prev swiper-button-white\" role=\"button\"><\/a><a class=\"wp-block-jetpack-slideshow_button-next swiper-button-next swiper-button-white\" role=\"button\"><\/a><a aria-label=\"Pause Slideshow\" class=\"wp-block-jetpack-slideshow_button-pause\" role=\"button\"><\/a><div class=\"wp-block-jetpack-slideshow_pagination swiper-pagination swiper-pagination-white\"><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Why not both!! I definitely feel this, and distinctly remember cooling off after a few teen arguments by drawing Sad People Sitting In Corners. Drawing\u2019s a great way to work stuff out.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Were you engaged in online fandom at all? What was that like?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I wasn\u2019t really \u2018online\u2019 as a kid, or even as a teen (I didn\u2019t really get \u2018online\u2019 til I got Tumblr back in 2014-15 in college), which makes sifting through online drama and history bonkers crazy to me. Like, I remember occasionally going onto ff.net to read <em>Danny Phantom <\/em>fic, and also spending some evenings waiting for one (1) Avril Lavigne AMV to load, but I never contributed anything. I had no idea that there were people not just making content but\u2026 arguing over it? That there were shipping wars and that kinda stuff\u2014 absolutely no concept of it.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I feel like an early paleontologist excavating the remains of what I think is maybe a lizard? a snake?? but it just gets bigger and bigger the more people I talk to and I have no idea how to piece it all together. I have no concept of DeviantArt or LiveJournal or the plethora of fanfic communities that apparently existed, so it\u2019s wild to me that people have friendships spanning back til then. In many ways, I feel a deep sense of FOMO\u2014so many of my peers developed amazing styles and aesthetics from those niche communities and from learning digital drawing at such an early age. It seems that&#8217;s how most of the comics community met! It\u2019s very much a \u201cwhile you were out doing idiotic tricks on a razor scooter I was busy learning The Blade\u201d kinda thing to me haha. Then again, I\u2019m partly thankful that I wasn\u2019t posting\u2026. the world would have a lot more angsty AMVs set to Marc Anthony\u2019s sad salsa music.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I\u2019m thankful I got to experience some of that positive fandom energy later on in college through the <em>Legend of Korra<\/em> fandom, which is how I met a lot of my online friends now. I cannot begin to express how much I grew as an artist and person through participating in that fandom. It was my first time posting fic and art and dealing firsthand with competing interpretations of a text, and although awkward and painful at times, it helped me recognize what I want out of characters and stories. Also, it helped me understand that notes\/likes aren\u2019t the end-all-be-all of modern online art making. Differentiating between what you actually enjoy creating and what you create because you rely on the external validation is hard, to say the least. But dang, is it liberating.<br><br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"902\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/galesaur.com\/tfww\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/tumblr_9f27cada88b28fe4ad1c53de40d2c370_afcb5ec7_640.jpg?resize=640%2C902&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-563\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/galesaur.com\/tfww\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/tumblr_9f27cada88b28fe4ad1c53de40d2c370_afcb5ec7_640.jpg?w=640&amp;ssl=1 640w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/galesaur.com\/tfww\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/tumblr_9f27cada88b28fe4ad1c53de40d2c370_afcb5ec7_640.jpg?resize=213%2C300&amp;ssl=1 213w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><figcaption>The cover of a <em>Danny Phantom <\/em>charity fanzine, 2019.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>You still participate in the <\/strong><strong><em>Danny Phantom <\/em><\/strong><strong>fandom today, even recently organizing a charity zine to benefit RAICES (reader, you can <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/gumroad.com\/l\/dp_zine_digital\"><strong>buy it here<\/strong><\/a><strong>). Have you noticed any changes in your relationship with the show as you\u2019ve grown older? What do you think keeps it in your heart, fifteen years later?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><\/strong>Ahh, that\u2019s a great question! I think as a kid I was drawn to the show because of how anachronistic it was at the time for me. I was a strictly Nicktoons kid, so the stories I was exposed to were very American in the sense that they were simple 11-minute comedy specials that had no long-running chronology or character arcs. Things like<em> Spongebob<\/em> and <em>Rocket Power<\/em> just reset after commercial and generally didn\u2019t provoke any deeper thought. That isn\u2019t to say that the comedic track was bad or anything, but I think that\u2019s why this show was interesting to me in comparison. You had a teenage protagonist who wasn\u2019t happy all the time\u2014 he was very insecure and anxious. He deals with bullies, low self-esteem, and although the show does its best to tip-toe around it, yes, he deals with death and grief. And we get to see him grow overtime\u2014 he learns to embrace his powers and the fact that, yeah, he\u2019s weird and his parents and most kids won\u2019t understand, but it\u2019s ok because his true friends do.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There\u2019s just something that\u2019s so *chef\u2019s kiss* about teenage superheroes that still gets me to this day. All the expectations on you are ten times as intense, and figuring out your powers and your values as a hero while dealing with the same issues on a personal level is\u2026AHH I could just scream about it forever. But <em>Danny Phantom<\/em> takes that to an apex where he literally stands at the intersection of life and death\u2014 he\u2019s half ghost! The fact that he exists between the boundaries of reality is something that I think has so much untapped potential. To this day I still text friends about possible things they could\u2019ve explored in the show. Danny meeting death! Danny performing exorcisms! Ahhh!!&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Now, looking back, I think there\u2019s also a huge amount of queer subtext that I think was also appealing to me, whether I knew it or not. And I think that\u2019s what draws a lot of new fans to the show, even over a decade after it ended. Danny having to be \u2018in the closet\u2019 about his alter ego and dealing with his parents\u2019 hatred of ghosts while public sentiment swayed depending on how ghosts were politicized by the town mayor\u2026. it\u2019s so on-the-nose it\u2019s almost funny it wasn\u2019t intentional subtext. It\u2019s not something I recognized as a kid, but it\u2019s something I smile at now and definitely appreciate.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Plus, on a more superficial level, I just love the designs more and more as I look back through them. Stephen Silver (the designer for <em>Kim Possible<\/em>) was a part of that preproduction team and it shows\u2014 each villain was absolutely iconic, and those bold, jagged shapes and fluid lines have influenced my art style since!&nbsp;<br><br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"750\" height=\"1145\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/i1.wp.com\/galesaur.com\/tfww\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/breaking-ice.jpg?fit=671%2C1024&amp;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-566\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/galesaur.com\/tfww\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/breaking-ice.jpg?w=750&amp;ssl=1 750w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/galesaur.com\/tfww\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/breaking-ice.jpg?resize=197%2C300&amp;ssl=1 197w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/galesaur.com\/tfww\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/breaking-ice.jpg?resize=671%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 671w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 750px) 100vw, 750px\" \/><figcaption>A cover for <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.gre-art.com\/breaking-the-ice\">Breaking The Ice<\/a>,<\/em> go read it,,,<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>I somehow missed out on <\/strong><strong><em>Danny Phantom <\/em><\/strong><strong>the first time around<\/strong><strong><em>, <\/em><\/strong><strong>but, uh, you\u2019ve sold me. I need this.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>And speaking of getting people right in the heart, you\u2019re the creator of <\/strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.gre-art.com\/breaking-the-ice\"><strong><em>Breaking the Ice<\/em><\/strong><\/a><strong><em>, <\/em><\/strong><strong>a series of short choose-your-own romance hockey comics. I love this idea and I <\/strong><strong><em>love <\/em><\/strong><strong>the execution &#8211; they\u2019re absolutely darling, and a much-needed mood-booster.&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>You spoke in this <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nhl.com\/news\/lgbtq-themed-webcomics-drawing-diverse-fans-to-hockey\/c-308749920\"><strong>great profile<\/strong><\/a><strong> about how your time playing hockey as a teen later became fuel for a number of story ideas. Young storytellers are often reminded to live their lives, because those experiences will later inform their work; how do you go about making use of those memories now? What advice would you give to people who are figuring out how to translate important aspects of their lives into comics? Am I just abusing this interview format to ask for pro tips? MAYBE??<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Haha, thank you so much!!! And that\u2019s such an interesting question. I think some things that seemed like a random series of events can only be strung into a story with a certain amount of distance. I don\u2019t think I could\u2019ve written a hockey story while I was in HS because it was too close to me. Only now that I\u2019m older and a bit more secure in myself can I look back and find through-lines: friendships that existed without me knowing, rivalries that were really crushes, etc.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So, if one is struggling with translation, it might be because they haven\u2019t lived the necessary words yet. And I think that\u2019s ok! Not every story needs to be told right now because you feel you have to or because the publishing market says it\u2019s what sells. Sometimes, it\u2019s just what you\u2019re ready to talk about. And for me, currently, it\u2019s been my completely unrecognized gay crushes in HS haha.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Also, I think the biggest thing I\u2019m learning about this process is extending empathy to all the participants involved. Yeah, at the time maybe a person was being mean to me and said x, y z\u2014 but as an adult, I can look back and realize ah, they were going through a tough time at home or they were struggling in school. And, all of a sudden, what was a very one-sided me vs the world ideation becomes a story with multifaceted characters. To be honest, the hardest part for me has been extending empathy toward myself. I did and said a lot of cringe-y stuff\u2014 most of it fueled by rage, grief, insecurity, rejection\u2014 all these ugly emotions we don\u2019t talk about and that girls especially are told we shouldn\u2019t exhibit. One\u2019s past is a much simpler story to interpret if you\u2019re the antagonist, because then all the bad things that happened to you seem to make more sense. But I think allowing your past self the breathing room to make mistakes, and accepting those of yourself and others lets you see a fuller picture and makes for more good stuff to translate into your current stories. I think. I\u2019m still figuring it out.<br><br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1005\" height=\"1534\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/i1.wp.com\/galesaur.com\/tfww\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/breaking-ice-team-mickey.jpg?fit=671%2C1024&amp;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-567\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/galesaur.com\/tfww\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/breaking-ice-team-mickey.jpg?w=1005&amp;ssl=1 1005w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/galesaur.com\/tfww\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/breaking-ice-team-mickey.jpg?resize=197%2C300&amp;ssl=1 197w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/galesaur.com\/tfww\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/breaking-ice-team-mickey.jpg?resize=768%2C1172&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/galesaur.com\/tfww\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/breaking-ice-team-mickey.jpg?resize=671%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 671w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><figcaption>Excerpt from <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.gre-art.com\/breaking-the-ice\">Breaking the Ice<\/a>.<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Lately, you\u2019ve been working on a few <em>Baby-Sitters Club <\/em>graphic novel adaptations (yesssss)!! You\u2019ve worked on a variety of other IPs, including <em>Lumberjanes, <\/em>so you\u2019re an old hand at interpreting characters that already exist. That said, I\u2019d be curious to know how prose adaptation has been treating you! Any surprises? Any creative takeaways you\u2019ll be bringing to future work?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ha! I\u2019ve looked to you on that front! You and Raina laid all the groundwork for my process on BSC, for which I\u2019m eternally grateful. There was also a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/posts\/adapting-prose-15390193\">Patreon post<\/a> of yours that you made public that saved my life. It was a detailed account of how you broke down a story, wrote the beats and considered what translated visually\u2026it was absolutely indispensable. THANK YOU SO MUCH for taking the time to write that up!&nbsp; <strong>(AW HEY.)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Because of you and Raina and the amazing team at Scholastic, adapting BSC has been incredibly fun. I never got to read the series as a kid, so this is all fresh to me\u2014 the histories, friendships\u2014 the DRAMA\u2014 so juicy. I love it. Frankly, I was surprised at how much Ann M. Martin was able to fit into each book. The cast would only get bigger and bigger and there were always a bunch of side plots going on featuring younger siblings and other family members with their own arcs and whatnot. What\u2019s that wolf puppy quote?? Everything happens so much.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Condensing the story into visual bites has been some of my favorite work. You get to kinda step back and focus on what\u2019s important: the character arcs and how, now matter what, the BSC are gonna be there for each other in the end. It also makes me really appreciate the differences inherent between comics and books. Not weighing them against each other, but truly understanding through translation that it\u2019s not a one-to-one thing. A graphic novel isn\u2019t a novel or a screenplay\u2014 it\u2019s its own art form that has its own very unique interpretation of time, which means beats are inherently gonna hit differently, and you have to account for that in the writing. I love the translation work for that because, really, even if you follow the book to a T, illustrating every single tiny detail it mentions, you\u2019re still inherently gonna make a new, different work because of the medium. So, you might as well go hog wild, you know?? Full credit to the editorial team at Scholastic for really understanding that difference and leaning into it. The graphic novels truly feel like their own series and modern interpretations\u2014 they\u2019re so fresh and fun and man, I\u2019m so grateful and happy to be a part of it with y\u2019all.&nbsp;<br><br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Yes! Yes to all of this! It\u2019s kind of like fanart, in a way &#8211; everyone\u2019s going to see the same story differently and interpret it with their own focus and priorities.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>And SPEAKING of priorities\u2026 what are you trying to get all your friends into now?&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">AHHHHHHHHHHH OK! UM!!??&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I\u2019ve been getting a lot of people into the new <a href=\"https:\/\/www.netflix.com\/title\/80179762\">She-Ra<\/a> reboot. The show just ended in spectacular fashion, but in my opinion it\u2019s much, much more than that. It\u2019s one of the best written shows I\u2019ve seen and it features a mostly female cast\u2014 there aren\u2019t words to express how refreshing it is to have absolutely none of the conflicts in a show be the result of girls fighting about a dude. Unreal. Plus, it\u2019s got a shit bag cat girl antagonist, so. Yeah.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><a href=\"https:\/\/yenpress.com\/9781975358587\/delicious-in-dungeon\/\">Delicious in Dungeon<\/a><\/em>: My roommate lent me the first book and I read the next 6 in, like, a week. It\u2019s so funny and sweet and just plain FUN to read. I never thought procedurals could be so inventive, but here we are in 2020 getting our emotions wrung out by crustacean armor.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><a href=\"https:\/\/us.macmillan.com\/books\/9781250171122\">Snapdragon<\/a><\/em>: One of my favorite graphic novels HANDS DOWN!!! *Stefon Voice* This book\u2019s got everything: witchcraft, motorcycles, lesbians, cute dogs! The intertwined histories and magical realism make this book feel colorful and alive in a way I haven\u2019t experienced many times before. Also <a href=\"http:\/\/katleyh.com\/\">Kat Leyh<\/a>\u2019s art is out of this world!!!!<br><br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"825\" height=\"1275\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/i1.wp.com\/galesaur.com\/tfww\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/shera-2019.jpg?fit=663%2C1024&amp;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-568\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/galesaur.com\/tfww\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/shera-2019.jpg?w=825&amp;ssl=1 825w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/galesaur.com\/tfww\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/shera-2019.jpg?resize=194%2C300&amp;ssl=1 194w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/galesaur.com\/tfww\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/shera-2019.jpg?resize=768%2C1187&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/galesaur.com\/tfww\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/shera-2019.jpg?resize=663%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 663w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><figcaption><em>She-Ra<\/em> fanart!! 2019!<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Anything else you\u2019d like to mention? Upcoming projects, people you\u2019d like to shout out, things I really should have asked but didn\u2019t think to\u2026?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I WANNA SHOUT YOU OUT! You are, in my eyes, the contemporary master of comics composition. Your lines are so fresh, fun and detailed!!!! Every page you craft is a visual bounty. But, as if that wasn\u2019t enough, you are also so, so incredibly skilled in bringing heart to everything you touch. Just having your books on my shelf is like having a piece of sunshine permanently stationed in my office. I can\u2019t WAIT for your next BSC book, and everything else you\u2019ve got cooking!&nbsp; <strong>(READER, I AM ACTUALLY SOBBING,,,,)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And I guess keep your eyes peeled for more Scholastic announcements! I\u2019m currently illustrating another super cool YA graphic novel with Scholastic Graphix and the inimitable <a href=\"http:\/\/christinagonzalez.com\/\">Christina Diaz Gonzalez<\/a> \u2014 it should be announced later this summer, and I\u2019m super stoked about it! Definitely a story I wish I had growing up.&nbsp;<br><br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Wahh, you&#8217;re the best! Thank you SO much for your time!!<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"451\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/galesaur.com\/tfww\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/tumblr_5ff4fffc216a96d75f3da9fde6799fe9_a45fdc74_640.jpg?resize=640%2C451&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-569\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/galesaur.com\/tfww\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/tumblr_5ff4fffc216a96d75f3da9fde6799fe9_a45fdc74_640.jpg?w=640&amp;ssl=1 640w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/galesaur.com\/tfww\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/tumblr_5ff4fffc216a96d75f3da9fde6799fe9_a45fdc74_640.jpg?resize=300%2C211&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Go <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gre-art.com\/\">follow Gaby<\/a>! If you&#8217;re reading this in a timely manner, they might still have <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/pichikui\/status\/1276289735917535232?s=20\">charity commissions<\/a> open!!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Today&#8217;s guest is the powerful Gaby Epstein! Gaby&#8217;s a fantastic cartoonist with a ton of stunning work under their belt, including the (highly recommended) Breaking the Ice comics. 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